notorious abortion clinic closes.

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yipeeeee!
i am teary eyed...just to think of the babies that will live because of this...they called this slaughter house a 'healthcare' clinic...*shakes head*

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"If men...hurt a woman WITH CHILD...he shall be surely punished...and he shall pay..."(Exodus 21:22)KJV
God is Love.
Jesus is Christ.
Father forgive us and deliver us from evil.

Those bums think they can get away with anything....what a shock it must have been to learn they actually have to pay for things other than cars, trips, homes on the bloodly backs of dead children.

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A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. - Edward R. Murrow

The first liberal was satan.

This is the real reason behind Obamacare. The abortion industry is collapsing financially. If the criminal elect doesn't deliver on his campain promise to them, many more clinics will close. The house of abortion cards is about to tumble. This is just one more down before that day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And what a glorious day it will be.

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AAAAAHHHHH once again monkey dung breath twist words into something that was never said. But blather on punk. We all know what you are.

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ConcernedParent:

When a football team moves the ball down the field and makes a first down, that does not add one point to their score nor does it assure them of the win. But ask any coach and they will tell you that games are won by moving the ball down the field and making first downs.

You advised us to "Do the math." No problem. When I started Life Dynamics in 1992, we generated a list of all the abortion death camps in America. At that time there were slightly more than 2100. Today, there are around 750. If you cannot see the value in that and how much it weakens the abortion lobby, then you are not much of a strategic thinker. You can be assured that NARAL, NAF, Planned Parenthood and all their fellow travelers certainly understand that concept. They've "done the math" and seen that, during that same time period, the number of abortions in this country went from more than 1.7 million per year to just over one million and the public support for abortion plummeted.

So have we won yet? No. Have we moved the ball down the field? Absolutely - and even our enemies are conceding it.

You also made the statement that, "The same guys who jump up every once in a while to exclaim that we have them on the run also occasionally go on a rant about how no progress has been made in over 3 decades." I assume that your criticism is directed toward me as I have, more or less, done what you described on many occasions. What you are conveniently leaving out, however, is that my observation about the lack of progress was only referring to the political arena. I have often pointed out that all we have really accomplished in the legislative process is to regulate the circumstances under which the unborn can be slaughtered. We have passed parental involvement legislation, waiting periods, informed consent, clinic regulations, etc, but we have not passed one law yet that returns the right-to-life to one baby in one state. The reality is, on the day Roe was handed down every baby conceived in America became legally "abortable" and that is still their status today.

You know, we have had to endure your relentless attacks on pro-lifers and your criticisms of our efforts. Yet we have no evidence of you ever doing anything whatsoever to stop this holocaust. If you think that what the pro-lifers in Pensacola accomplished was meaningless, that's fine. Maybe you're right and, if so, maybe it's time for you to come down out of the stands, get in the game and show us how to do things better. But as it stands now, you're not a leader or a follower; you're just a whiner. And until that changes, you have not earned the right to criticize anything anyone else does or minimize anything they achieve.

In the final analysis, you are the very embodiment of something Theodore Roosevelt once said: "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."

I would ask you, how does the presense of Planned Parenthoods across America correspond to where they are most perceived to be needed verses where they can simply perform the greatest number of abortions?

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People that support abortion are narrow minded, morally frail, passively cruel, constitutionally weak, emotionally impaired and are in every way, humanly disadvantaged.

I AM A PRO-LIFE PERSON!

Once again, joueravecfou displays his boundless idiocy.

If this were a viable business, the owners would have negotiated with the state for a reduced penalty and gone on about their business. That is how administrative issues like this are handled and they are commonly resolved for pennies on the dollar or discharged. In fact, in this case the state had already made it clear they were willing to negotiate. And this is EXACTLY what would have happened had it not been for the many years of pressure put on by the local pro-life community.

The fact is, either this was not a profitable operation because of a lack of customers or it was profitable but the income was not enough to offset the stress of continuing. Whichever is true, it is absurd to suggest that the efforts of the pro-life movement were not a factor.

Isn't it interesting how these moral degenerates who defend abortion constantly whine about how pro-lifers conspire to make it impossible to operate a "perfectly legal women's center," but every time one of these alleged conspiracies succeeds they suddenly claim that the pro-life effort had nothing to do with it.

I view the closure of abortion clinics not so much as "yay, think of all those children that will be saved", but rather, as a message to society as a whole that for whatever purpose, be it finanical, lack of demand or legalities, an abortion clinic has closed. While I'm sure some children will be spared, as their mother may view at as a sign, most businesses give warnings of imminent closures, so chances are women who were heading to that clinic will either have made alternative arrangments or have had the deed done before.

But then its a number's game, in 1992, those 2,100 clinics performed 1,359,145 abortions. So, in 2004, 839,226 abortions were reported, so if we generously say that there were 750 clinics in 2004 then in 1992 those clinics on average performed 647 abortions each, but in 2004 it was 1,119 each.

Supply and demand, the remaining clinics will pick up the slack and make a stink load more money for it.

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Cannot unsee.

Know Rule 34.

Edited: 11/06/2009 at 03:11 PM by Shenanigans

And many of us have sat by and watch good people on here get verbally abused by those who claim they are pro-life and Christian. You do nothing.

In concernedparents defense......he has done nothing even remotely close to the verbal abuse that your pals on this forum do when they badmouth and tear apart people they disagree with all in the name of Christianity.

Matthew 5:43-48 43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shall love thy neighbor, and hate your enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. (KJV)

And how many Christians do this on this forum? Love your enemies. How many in Faithmans hate group do this one? It is easy to love those who are nice to us. But it is much harder to love those who are mean and nasty and call names. Nevertheless we are commanded to do it. Calling names and bashing someone verbally is wrong. You condone and allow both and then point the finger at ConcernedParent.

The Bible says "a soft answer turns away wrath." (Prov. 15:1) I have to constantly remind myself of this one. Maybe it would help you too.

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Rom 1:18 For God's anger is being revealed from Heaven against all impiety and against the iniquity of men who through iniquity suppress the truth. God is angry."

Churchmouse, I truly think you are a troubled soul. I pray for you -- In the name of the Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. Amen.

and anxiously look forward to the day that you begin to "practice what you preach."

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All unborn children are persons
Abortion is NOT LEGAL
Read the Constitution
Defend the Child

After back to back hurricanes Dennis, Ivan, Katrina and others have devastated Pensacola all glory to the Creator for His judgment of a town that has killed the righteous and protected the guilty. May He answers the prayers of the ones who continue to condemn the city and the death houses for their crimes and murders. He is doing the same across the nation. Take a look around at all He has done since 2001. This nation is being destroyed from within through His working. All honor to Him. He is just.

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broken

As His prophets were considered who pronounced His judgments in His Word. Thank you for pointing it out. His Son was accused of having a demon. Very kind of you to say.

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News flash... MC3 knocks the snot out of CP.. CP throws conniption fit.. Stay tuned for further updates..

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We say grace and we say Ma'am and
if you aint into that we don't give a Damn.
-Hank Williams Jr. (Country Boy Can Survive) -circa 1981

ConcernedParent:

You stated that I had deleted some of your posts. You are a bald-faced liar. Let me make this perfectly clear so that you, and whoever might defend you, understands. WE HAVE NEVER DELETED A POST THAT YOU MADE. NEVER. NOT ONCE.

Second, I will reluctantly grant your request to be banned but it cannot happen until Monday. I ask for your patience.

Third, I have never once "...implied that the political arena is more important...." To the contrary, for years I have consistently said that I have almost no confidence in the "political arena" to resolve this issue.

Third, as you stated, I did indeed "...declare that voting for a pro-choice candidate excludes one from being "pro-life." I said that, and stand behind it, because it is true. And again, your suggestion that "our ensuing discussion has disappeared from the forum..." is a bald-faced lie.

Fourth, when I pointed out that your had relentlessly attacked pro-lifers on the forum, you called me hypocritical because I had attacked you. The problem is, that would not make me a hypocrite unless you are pro-life which we all know is not the case.

Fifth, I advised that, "...maybe it's time for you to come down out of the stands, get in the game and show us how to do things better." You responded that you didn't do so because, "... it's been tried, not just by me, but by others as well. You guys are just too self righteous and stubborn to listen. Do you honestly expect anyone to believe you are open to differing opinions or methods? Many of us have seen you reject, out of hand, literally any notion that veers from your narrow, self righteous views of how things should be."

For the sake of discussion, let's concede that what you are saying is true. The question is: SO WHAT? I didn't advise you to come down out of the stands and work with us or change us or try to improve what we are doing. Whether me and the other pro-lifers you so gleefully attack are stubborn, or self-righteous, or closed-minded has absolutely no bearing on what you can do. We don't own the movement and we have no way to keep you out even if we wanted to. The fact is, if we are as bad as you say, that is even MORE reason for you to get in the game.

When I committed to work full-time in the pro-life movement, I did so because during my years as a "weekend warrior" I saw a lot of things being done that I found to be either worthless or counterproductive. I also saw people involved who I thought were all the things you accuse me of being. And in some cases it was true. But the difference between you and me is that I did not use that as some lame excuse to sit in the stands and just throw rocks at those who were down on the field getting their asses kicked.

By the way, there are still people in this movement who I see as stubborn, self-righteous and closed-minded running organizations that are doing things I find to be either worthless or counterproductive. But they are in the game and you won't hear me attacking them in public. Right or wrong, unlike you, they at least have the courage to walk on the battlefield and face the enemy.

Again, go back to my previous post and read the Roosevelt quote.

As for your question, "Who died and made you God?" the answer is no one. In fact, I believe that job is already taken. However, I do not have to be God in order to tell you that you have not earned the right to criticize what those who are actually in the battle are doing.

Finally, your suggestion that I consider myself above criticism or perhaps too thin-skinned to accept it, would be laughable if it were not so preposterous. The battles over slavery and abortion are the two most vicious and contentious confrontations in American history and any man or woman who can't deal with criticism would not have lasted 10 minutes in either one.

This goes on all the time!
CP has been owned so many times by Mark it's getting almost to the point of CP warranting a little pity....nah...scratch that...no pity for that pompous ass.

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A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. - Edward R. Murrow

The first liberal was satan.

Did I just read that CP is gong to get banned on Monday!
Oh happy day!....
How nice of Mark to fulfill the PA's (Pompous Ass) request and give the forum some more room, his posts were only a little less long than his love for himself.

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A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. - Edward R. Murrow

The first liberal was satan.

ROFLMAO!
You got OWNED AGAIN!!
You're too funny!
And you didn't even warrant another reply!!

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A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. - Edward R. Murrow

The first liberal was satan.

You know, your constant finger pointing has taken away whatever credit you once earned.
You quote prov. 15:1 after lecturering us all on how we should behave.
Do you not at all see what you're doing???

There are Scriptures concerning the blind...I think you should look those up and do a little study.

I don't know who suddenly has made you some kind of forum Christian finger pointer outer while you're pointing your fingers (which are starting to look kind of scraggly and crooked), but that little voice is lying to you.
"Maybe that would help you" to know.

And in the meantime, nearly 4,000 children faced a gruesome death and you're busy lecturering us like you're some kind of forum mommy....we don't need your help, but the babies do!

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A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. - Edward R. Murrow

The first liberal was satan.

ROFLMAO
If you believed one single word you typed you'd have stayed away today!
You're the attention whore...sheesh...you think because a few pro-baby killers side with you that the rest of don't see what an idiot you are!!
You're just too funny. Really.

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A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. - Edward R. Murrow

The first liberal was satan.