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Topic Title: Dr Curtis Boyd and Southwestern Women's Surgery Center (Abortion Mill)
Topic Summary: Late Term Abortion? Bring your full payment --- We accept cash, money orders, and credit cards.
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"Am I killing? Yes, I am. I know that"

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Texas Late-Term Abortionist and Baptist Minister Admits: "Am I killing? Yes, I am"


By Thaddeus M. Baklinski

DALLAS, November 6, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In a jarringly candid statement made to WFAA-TV in Dallas, Texas, late term abortionist and Baptist Minister Dr. Curtis Boyd said that when he performs abortions he is "killing," and he has no issues with it whatsoever.

"Am I killing? Yes, I am. I know that," Boyd said during a video interview with the news station following the opening of the Southwestern Women's Surgery Center abortion facility. By law, Boyd must have a surgery center in order to abort a child more than 16 weeks along.

"We see patients from Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana and across Texas," Boyd said, admitting that he has performed abortions on girls as young as nine years old.

"The hardest ones are the young girls," he said, saying that girls as young as 9 and 10 years of age have been to his center for abortions.

Boyd opened the first abortion facility in Texas in 1973 following the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision and is the only doctor in North Texas who will perform late-term abortions on women up to six months pregnant.

The abortionist said he was a friend of the late Dr. George Tiller, a fellow later-term abortionist in Witchita, Kansas who was gunned down earlier this year. Like Tiller he professes to be a Christian who prays about the abortions he does.

Boyd told WFAA-TV he is an ordained Baptist minister who has now joined the Unitarian church. He said he prays often.

"I'll ask that the spirit of this pregnancy be returned to God with love and understanding," he said.

Karen Garnett, of the Catholic Pro-Life Committee, who regularly witnesses to life outside the abortion centre, noted to WFAA-TV that Boyd's prayers are "vastly different" from the ones offered by the pro-lifers on behalf of the children he has killed and the mothers they are trying to save from undergoing an abortion.

"We're certainly disappointed to hear any unborn child will be killed by abortion," said Garnett. "But, to hear it's a late-term abortion in Dallas, once again, it's particularly devastating."


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Death on credit? These poor women who can't afford to raise children have good credit and credit cards? A money order? Cash? And all on the day you kill your baby?

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OMG! DOCTORS CHARGE FOR MEDICAL PROCEDURES! ALERT THE PRESSES!

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Bring money, have death. Abortion on demand.

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 11/06/2009 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by: Augustine

Bring money, have death. Abortion on demand.

What exactly is the point you're trying to make here?

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 11/06/2009 10:03 PM
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I think it's the "we accept MasterCard, VISA, etc." language that is what people are opposed to- it does make it sound a little like abortion is a trip to the beauty salon. What I didn't like more was the "You may now be looking for a place to have your abortion." language rather than something like "a place where abortion is available."
IMHO it sounds like they assume you've already made up your mind instead of maybe just doing research on your options, OR that they're going to try to make the decision for you by writing it that way.

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Originally posted by: JosieCashew

I think it's the "we accept MasterCard, VISA, etc." language that is what people are opposed to- it does make it sound a little like abortion is a trip to the beauty salon.

All major hospitals accept credit cards. Why shouldn't abortion providers, as well?

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Originally posted by: JosieCashew

What I didn't like more was the "You may now be looking for a place to have your abortion." language rather than something like "a place where abortion is available." IMHO it sounds like they assume you've already made up your mind instead of maybe just doing research on your options, OR that they're going to try to make the decision for you by writing it that way.

I'm not seeing it. It just looks to me as though they are explaining the different procedures they offer and what to expect if you choose to have an abortion in their facility.

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Well, there is no "if you choose." language in there-it just says looking for a place TO have your abortion, rather than to possibly have one and/or discuss whether this is the right option for you. If it were up to me, I wouldn't use that kind of language with the other two options either- no "a place TO assist you with parenthood or a place TO place your child for adoption." (if one has an unwanted pregnancy) but rather places where you can either do those things, OR simply get advice as to which option could be best for you and your baby.
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Originally posted by: joueravecfou

Why would an abortion clinic assist with parenthood? They are neither social services nor an adoption agency. They are there for abortion and don't need to use wishy washy language for women who have made the decision. A woman doesn't go to an "ABORTION CLINIC" for advice. She goes to have an abortion.



I know you (collective) love to think that women are like dumb little lambs wandering into these clinics by accident, but the whole reason these clinics exists is because most women who choose abortion do so quickly and finally and are ready to follow through when they walk through the door. Women are not stupid creatures to be coddled and second guessed. It seems so obvious that they know perfectly well that they can either continue or end their unwanted pregnancy and the abortion clinic is there for after they make that choice.


Nope, it's you (COLLECTIVE) that make a mockery out of womanhood and think women are too stupid, lame, unable to perform more than one task and function at a time.
YOU (PERSONALLY as well as COLLECTIVELY) have lied to women and about women for so long too many of them beleive the same crap, the same lies and instead of honoring and being PROUD that we carry humanity in our wombs AND can take care of business too many murder their own sons and daughters thinking they can't possibly do both!

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 11/07/2009 10:33 AM
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The abortion clinic I read about claimed, as I said, that they sent undecided women to another counselor, who could REFER them to other services if they chose.
P.S. Whatever you may think about abortion, what's so wrong with having at least a brief counseling session before you have one? I keep hearing about how the women/girls who do usually do NOT do so lightly, so why not have that on the record when it's true, and refer them to other services when it isn't- when, perhaps, the reason she "wants" to have one is because someone else is pushing her to?

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I'm guessing that the girls "as young as 9 or 10 years of age." are often there because of a pedophile. I know teenage girls in the same situation can cover it up, or be advised to cover it up- by saying her same age boyfriend is responsible, but as to the very young ones-does anyone really think that it was little Billy from day camp who impregnated her? I wonder if this doctor is reporting these cases to the police?

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Originally posted by: joueravecfou

Of course they know they CAN do both. They simply don't WANT to or at least not at the time they choose to abort and that's what really makes you angry. Plenty, if not most women who abort go on to have children when they want or already have them so your assumption is once again incorrect. Almost every woman I know is working and raising children so there is no argument that women can't do it all.


You want it both ways....well, we're not all as stupid as you are and as stupid as you look, moron.
I'm not inccorect, women were held down for too many years and to think that now they can kill their very own sons and daughters makes them liberated is the biggest, foulest lie of all.

Think about it again...jackass, you don't get it both ways...either women CAN carry humanity and carry on with great success or they're too stupid, too lazy or both.
Lie all you want, but I and others like me will ALWAYS be out there countering the filthy lies you tell just so you can sleep and see that reflection in the mirror without seeing a monster.

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Originally posted by: JosieCashew

I'm guessing that the girls "as young as 9 or 10 years of age." are often there because of a pedophile. I wonder if this doctor is reporting these cases to the police?


Of course they don't. Where's the money in that, where's the fortune in having to turn away business or expose themselves to scrutiny?

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Originally posted by: JosieCashew
Whatever you may think about abortion, what's so wrong with having at least a brief counseling session before you have one?


Surgical Abortion Q&A

Our fee for abortion also includes:

* Individual counseling from a degreed counselor who will accompany you throughout the procedure.

* Post-abortion counseling if needed.


Non-Surgical Abortion Q&A

Our fee for non-surgical abortion includes:

* Individual counseling from a degreed counselor who will help to prepare you for your experience.

* Post-abortion counseling if needed.


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Originally posted by: saucie
Of course they don't. Where's the money in that, where's the fortune in having to turn away business or expose themselves to scrutiny?

Oh please. You have NO way to know one way or the other. Who's to say that the parents of these girls haven't already reported the crime (if there indeed was one committed) and then STILL chose abortion as the proper solution to their situation? And would this doctor be OPENLY admitting to treating such young girls WITHOUT having gone through the proper procedures before doing so?

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Ok, THERE I screwed up. However, I do hope that these counselors do sneak in a phrase such as, "Have you considered all the options when trying to make this decision?" I wonder if that woman who recently left her job at that Planned Death in Texas because she was being told to push the abortion option more due to the problems with the bad economy was also told to have counselors downplay motherhood or adoption to undecided women?
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IF there was indeed one committed? What kind of sick animal says it's ok for a 3rd or 4th grader to have intercourse-with anyone?
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I didn't mean that a death camp should assist with parenthood or adoption- only that if the woman appears not so sure while she is being counseled, they could refer her to a place that would. Also, when I said the stuff about "to assist you with parenthood or adoption." I mean that the agencies who DO primarily deal with those issues should also not pressure a woman to use their services if she's not sure.
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Originally posted by: JosieCashew

IF there was indeed one committed? What kind of sick animal says it's ok for a 3rd or 4th grader to have intercourse-with anyone?

The boy in question could be the same age or very near to the same age as her.

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Originally posted by: JosieCashew

Ok, THERE I screwed up. However, I do hope that these counselors do sneak in a phrase such as, "Have you considered all the options when trying to make this decision?" I wonder if that woman who recently left her job at that Planned Death in Texas because she was being told to push the abortion option more due to the problems with the bad economy was also told to have counselors downplay motherhood or adoption to undecided women?

I have a hard time taking much stock in what disgruntled ex-employees have to say about their former workplaces.

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